Hello, On Sunday, July 19, 2020 2:53:32 AM MDT John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Sunday, July 19, 2020 1:47:23 AM MST Alexey A. wrote: > > > >Killing users' programs needlessly is not welcome > > > > > > Setting limits for cgroup (MemoryMax, MemorySwapMax) leads to "Killing > > users' programs needlessly": system-wide available memory may be not > > exhausted, but OOM killer will be invoked in this cgroup. > > > I'm sure we can all agree that only killing off the software that people > complain causes these events is better than killing off everything else just > because the system doesn't have a ton of RAM available. > > > > >The goal is to ensure the kernel can keep doing its job, it's > > >not going to try to figure out what you intend for userspace, as well it > > >shouldn't. > > > > > > The goal is to ensure the kernel can keep doing its job *and userspace* > > doing its job. I don't need a system where the kernel is alive, but > > userspace is dead. > > > Userspace isn't dead when a system is thrashing. Your software is still > running. If it gets killed, you're most likely going to lose your data. While this is true, most people will powercycle the machine at this point anyway out of frustration if nothing else. I certainly have powercycled machines in this state before. Powercycling a machine is going to potentially lose more data than just killing a runaway firefox or chrome process. Ariadne _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
