John M. Harris Jr wrote: > Userspace isn't dead when a system is thrashing. Your software is still > running. If it gets killed, you're most likely going to lose your data. The thing is, there are various levels of thrashing. In some cases, the system is so busy that you have no chance to bring it back to responsiveness for many minutes, up to hours. (Other than hitting the Reset or Power button, of course.) I have had cases where not even sshd would respond. (The fact that login has been blocking on D-Bus since the introduction of systemd-logind does not help either. Login timeouts are something that was just never happening in the past, now they are common under heavy load.) That said, I do not see how the EarlyOOM heuristic, which allows, depending on the exact settings, something like 80-90% of swap to be used IN ADDITION to 90+% RAM (and will only start doing anything if BOTH RAM and swap are full) can prevent thrashing in any reliable way. My thrashing scenarios have had much less swap than that used. (I have twice as much swap than RAM, so when the EarlyOOM heuristics trigger, my programs are already trying to use almost 3 times as much RAM as is actually available!) Kevin Kofler _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx