Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

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On Mo, 06.07.20 20:06, Chris Murphy (lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 4:48 PM Gerald Henriksen <ghenriks@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 14:24:37 -0400, you wrote:
> >
> > >On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 06:54:02AM +0000, Zbigniew J?drzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > >> Making btrfs opt-in for F33 and (assuming the result go well) opt-out for F34
> > >> could be good option. I know technically it is already opt-in, but it's not
> > >> very visible or popular. We could make the btrfs option more prominent and
> > >> ask people to pick it if they are ready to handle potential fallout.
> > >
> > >I'm leaning towards recommending this as well. I feel like we don't have
> > >good data to make a decision on -- the work that Red Hat did previously when
> > >making a decision was 1) years ago and 2) server-focused, and the Facebook
> > >production usage is encouraging but also not the same use case. I'm
> > >particularly concerned about metadata corruption fragility as noted in the
> > >Usenix paper. (It'd be nice if we could do something about that!)
> >
> > So if one has a spare partition to play with btrfs, is there an easy
> > way to install a second copy of Fedora without having the /boot/efi/
> > entries overwrite the existing Fedora installation?  Or fix it to have
> > 2 separate entries after the fact?
>
>
> It's possible but has challenges. Separate ESP's you'll need to
> either

Thou shallt not have multiple ESPs per disk. See:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16261695

The EFI spec is kinda vague about it, but it breaks everywhere, in
particular with Windows.

Lennart

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Lennart Poettering, Berlin
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