On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 01:26:31PM -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Monday, July 6, 2020 5:24:32 AM MST Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > Default fedora disk layout in UEFI mode is partitions for ESP, /boot and > > LVM. If you ask for full disk encryption LVM is encrypted, ESP + boot > > are not. Which makes sense to me. Why would you encrypt /boot? The > > files you can find there are public anyway, you can download them from > > the fedora servers. Encrypting /boot would make the boot process more > > fragile for no benefit. > > I guess that shows how unfamiliar I am with UEFI boot Fedora. You would > encrypt /boot to ensure that your boot images have not been tampered with, Well, if that is your concern the answer is secure boot. That will not only prevent tampering with /boot files, but also prevent tampering with the bootloader itself. > or config files haven't been read by somebody other than the end > user. Hmm, typically that is pretty standard stuff and very simliar on all fedora installs. Only the root filesystem uuid differs, and possibly local tweaks like configuring a serial console. I can't see how reading that is of much concern. > > We could that by using vfat for /boot. Or by shipping & using xfs.efi, > > simliar to how apple ships & uses apfs.efi to boot macOS from apfs > > filesystems. > > Is there a notable benefit to using that over GRUB2, which already has > support on both UEFI and BIOS? Well, for my day-to-day work it doesn't make much of a difference. Both get the job done. I generally dislike the grub2 config file format. I'm not going to repeat all the arguments here which have been mentioned numerous times already. With BLS support things became a bit better because for the most part I can just ignore grub.cfg after install. I suspect the grub2 maintainers have a different view on this. They have to deal with the mess to make sure I don't have to. And on top of that getting changes merged upstream to grub2 seems to be a PITA, leading to a huge stack of patches in the fedora grub2 rpm ... take care, Gerd _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx