-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On Mon, 2020-06-29 at 00:37 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Monday, June 29, 2020 12:32:56 AM MST Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 6/29/20 12:27 AM, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > > > > On Monday, June 29, 2020 12:18:28 AM MST Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > > > > > On 6/28/20 11:35 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the best filesystem ever created, ZFS, I can't say that I > > > > > agree > > > > > with > > > > > your assessment of that value. Having ZFS in Fedora would > > > > > throw Fedora > > > > > over the top as being the best Linux distro, hands down. I > > > > > can count > > > > > the > > > > > number of times that having root on ZFS has led to me waiting > > > > > on kernel > > > > > updates over the past three years on one hand, and could > > > > > still do so if > > > > > I > > > > > had half as many fingers! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How many times are you going to keep mentioning ZFS? It's > > > > completely > > > > off the table, not allowed, never happening. (I consider the > > > > chance of > > > > Oracle doing something reasonable to be immeasurably small.) > > > > > > > > > See the relevant section of Mark's email. I also don't see how > > > it'd > > > require Oracle to change anything in order to get OpenZFS into > > > Fedora. > > > > > > You were mentioning ZFS, not OpenZFS. However, it's still the same > > problem. OpenZFS is CDDL which won't be accepted. The only way > > that > > can be changed is if Oracle does something. And as long as OpenZFS > > is > > an out-of-tree module, it won't be in Fedora. > > ZFS, in terms of Linux support, is generally OpenZFS. You will note > that Mark > also simply said "ZFS". Yes, OpenZFS is under CDDL. That's not really > a > problem. See > https://www.softwarefreedom.org/resources/2016/linux-kernel-cddl.html > . Ubuntu's solution is wouldn't work for us, and it is a GPL > violation > (https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2016/feb/25/zfs-and-linux/), but > it's also not necessary. The package for OpenZFS could be provided as > a kmod > package instead, which would *not* be a GPL violation. > > I don't understand the attitude against this particular out-of-tree > module, as > it's readily available for every kernel within days of release. The > longest > lulls have been around holidays, where it took up to 5 days to get > support for > the latest stable kernel. First of all, Fedora is packaging not only latest stable kernel. Fedora is building kernel from git in rawhide almost daily. Secondly, kmods in Fedora are not allowed. > -- > John M. Harris, Jr. > > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx - -- Igor Raits <ignatenkobrain@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEcwgJ58gsbV5f5dMcEV1auJxcHh4FAl75nhoACgkQEV1auJxc Hh7u8g/+N/1Z9nEzFSzDLk6G5kOcfdeexDIv9EhtfLhmSuPDbwtt/t0JqHpWxxWx 8pf42bG85OkatyeMKE+Ycb9eW3ZSJ008i9Et2Nm9F9WS11KrfSWmVOjl1lJ7vQpD 9MJsvGgTQObcKriVxi6HEST/av9CStCzLyqjejMhyG/cXqTZ0sZuF9ZmdudiKGi+ gzDGxcJYeCnnagklomGB55mfz/+SrQphGNUc/yHbRJgrNpNmbUTIfl4mzSzu+12L 3kpPBLIaQYHp+Va8SV8C9jzWe3CXhN95pL5NqL6fcGouB9ciyds+1U0+xyPZF3kt Va+ziIKdbPJbBfgut4qa84QPCaUCb2gvCOUbL8IDV0ohlk05ss20NFDo26FxKEFQ QFqTGJGgrZZd3MK7HO0y/pZTtegv2dUxBy/xzqYo+5iLMczDTI3RJYWZoLDEP/wV 8fsF6jltCXXYvzWeQ9lk2aHODrP34PmqTTCvbwwzmQThB4ruG7h6Q4ec27MK+umz eW7di/U4cnB6JsJIII1ZJAy8E9vH98n1zUPFrpXsYhAq5AmepMMHtQB8A4CQoGkp 3F2csTTT1OR8f35RInt/IVZ0aLwB+vhdXmtWyZk35aRRTHZ1PIzcH4yd0mt1GObG LenIifmIdp/aQtgZAc3023517cg7zR+G4iABzu1yDf0tVsnA1g4= =ihOE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
