On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 01:23:17PM -0400, Neil Horman wrote: > But thats more or less the expectation of unix and unix like systems. For > all the porcelain and chrome we've put around it, under the covers, its > all still a bag of parts, and the expectation is (or should be) when using > a bag of parts, you will have to learn how several of those parts work (be > it vi or nano when using git, or substitue your tool of choice here). You > start with a tool, you relize it relies on another tool, so you have to > push it down the stack and figure out the new tool as part of the overall > process. So.... *my* expectation is that as a distro, part of the value we add is to take those parts and provide them to users in a coherent way that addresses their problems. We want to provide a "bag of parts" to people _in the Fedora Project_, but we want to enable those groups to provide assembled sets to their users. > Would that be a possibility here? I've upgraded my fedora workstation so > many times, I'm not sure what our firstboot screens look like anymore, but > would it be worthwhile to present users with some text, or a guide wizard, > to point out files like their ~/.bashrc file with some commented text that > shows clearly what some useful environment variables are, and how they > might set them to customize their experience? Its not very 'just press the > button to do something you may or may not understand', but it targets new > users as part of firstboot, and introduces them in a somewhat friendly way > to how things look under the covers, so they can make adjustments as their > needs dictate. Even if they don't do it immediately, they will have a > reference to something they can recall if they find later that their > choice of editor is not something they are comfortable with. I don't think this is the experience most Fedora Workstation users are looking for. But I'd totally support the creation of a "Learn Linux!" Fedora spin with this kind of pedagogical self-teaching focus. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx