On 26/06/20 08:43 -0400, Neil Horman wrote:
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 01:27:54PM +0100, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
On 26/06/20 09:22 -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote:
> Really do we believe that setting nano as a default editor will attract new
> users to Linux? How many end users in last years use Debian because of the
> default editor change? A newbie generally does know nothing about vi/vim,
> cron, git, etc...
The proposal doesn't say it will *attract* new users. I think the
point is to not frustrate users who have already decided to try Fedora.
Do we have real stasitics on this (somthing in the form of bz reports or
comments on a list) indicating that users actually are frustrated with being
Finding/using Bugzilla or a mailing list are apparently almost as
arcane as using vi to many people, even developers.
I can't find any questions about it at ask.fedoraproject.org, but that
probably isn't most people's first place to go for help anyway.
confronted with vi unexpectedly? Given the initially presented use case (having
git-commit or git-rebase pop up vi as the default editor), I'm struggling with
the notion that an individual user is sufficiently skilled to use git on the
command line, yet struggles to find information on the editor git uses by
There are thousands of "how to use git" pages describing using the
command line TUI. I bet only the better pages think to mention using vi.
Users familiar with version control from another OS might want to try
doing it on the command line in Fedora, and stumble when they get to
the editor step.
default. It seems somewhat inconsistent to me. Thats not to say its not a real
problem, but it feels a bit like we're taking action on an issue that may not be
a problem, at the expense of existing users that like the environment the way it
is.
See
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/4XS6ZYUO4K3OY46MSJQOLBPEKCXZFAE4/
for actual numbers, to be taken with a large pinch of salt (we have no
way to know how relevant those searches are to Fedora users).
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