Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make nano the default editor

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On 26/06/20 10:33 -0400, Neil Horman wrote:
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 09:00:58AM -0400, Solomon Peachy wrote:
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 08:43:19AM -0400, Neil Horman wrote:
> Do we have real stasitics on this (somthing in the form of bz reports or
> comments on a list) indicating that users actually are frustrated with being
> confronted with vi unexpectedly?

Why would one file a bugzilla ticket over this?  vi, and the system
default, is working as intended.  "That's just the way Linux is," say
the folks having to answer "how to quit vi" for the umpteenth time.

Ok, perhaps bugzilla is the wrong venue, but the point stands. Are people
actually asking how to quit vi (or some simmilar questions) somewhere?  If I
google how to quit vi, I see a full 10 pages of the answer to the question
documented in detail (which suggests lots of people had the question at some
point in time), but what I don't see are stackoverflow (or other message board
posts) asking the question currently.

For the third time:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/4XS6ZYUO4K3OY46MSJQOLBPEKCXZFAE4/

Three years ago they said:

"In the last year, How to exit the Vim editor has made up about .005%
of question traffic: that is, one out of every 20,000 visits to Stack
Overflow questions. That means during peak traffic hours on weekdays,
there are about 80 people per hour that need help getting out of Vim."

Note I'm not saying we shouldn't make this change, I'm just saying that I don't
like the idea of making it based on our assumption of what our end users are
struggling with.  If we have references to end users that legitimately have this
problem, I'd love it to see them, and that would satisfy me.

See above. I find it surprising, but the numbers are there, and while
I think things have changed a lot in 20 years, I don't think they've
changed much since 2017.
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