Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make nano the default editor

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On 6/25/20 4:11 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 3:38 PM Jan Kratochvil
<jan.kratochvil@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 21:21:37 +0200, Chris Adams wrote:
Unless you are doing kernel development, why do you care what the kernel
messages say?  On my systems, they go by too fast to read anyway.

When it locks up (during updating firmware on my Athlon machine) I see just
a black screen. When I reboot without rhgb/quiet the problem is not
reproducible as it happens only rarely. There are many reasons why kernels
sometimes fail to boot, why to give up on troubleshooting?

I think we need more complete bug reports about these kinds of
problems, and fix them, rather than default to showing startup scroll.
I don't have this problem very often and I use rawhide kernels. And
where I run stable kernels I can't even remember the last time I
needed to see the startup scroll for troubleshooting. It's easy to get
it unhidden though - hit Esc.

I agree with your points, but pressing ESC only reverses the "rhgb" part, the kernel output is still "quiet".
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