On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 3:38 PM Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 21:21:37 +0200, Chris Adams wrote: > > I'm not sure why you think end-users can't use a free OS. > > First steps of end-users is to install Chrome, Spotify and VirtualBox. > So there is left no advantage of a Free OS. They are popular but by no means universal. I don't install any of those three things. > I agree the idea of bash-completion is nice. But it is so severly incomplete > it is more a burden than help. Unfortunately I no longer remember all the bugs > I faced before I started removing it years ago but a simple one is: > > $ wget -O somepackage.rpm https://... > $ dnf install som<tab> > <wait for a few minutes> > $ dnf install sombok- You're right this is bad - i mistype things all the time and yet hit tab and it just stalls out and is faster to command C three times and start over. > > > > Unless you are doing kernel development, why do you care what the kernel > > messages say? On my systems, they go by too fast to read anyway. > > When it locks up (during updating firmware on my Athlon machine) I see just > a black screen. When I reboot without rhgb/quiet the problem is not > reproducible as it happens only rarely. There are many reasons why kernels > sometimes fail to boot, why to give up on troubleshooting? I think we need more complete bug reports about these kinds of problems, and fix them, rather than default to showing startup scroll. I don't have this problem very often and I use rawhide kernels. And where I run stable kernels I can't even remember the last time I needed to see the startup scroll for troubleshooting. It's easy to get it unhidden though - hit Esc. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
