On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 8:50 PM Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 19:18:59 +0200, Ben Cotton wrote: > > In contrast, Nano offers the kind of graphical text editing experience > > that people are used to, > > This is another step trying to make Fedora end-user friendly while the only > effect is making it hostile to developers. As Fedora will never be used by > end-users as it conflicts with Fedora's foundation Freedom. With each such > step it takes more and more effort to make a new Fedora installation usable by > a developer (setenforce 0, dnf remove bash-completion, remove rhgb quiet etc.). I must be a very weird (fedora) developer. I have never done any of those three things :) FWIW, I embrace the "EDITOR=nano by default" change so hard that I need to be careful not to squeeze too hard. Setting nano as default editor (or installing it on Server Edition) is the first thing I do on every fresh fedora install. Still, every time vi(m) opens for some reason, I feel like being thrown into cold water (or into an exam situation, unprepared) - I still don't know any vi commands other than :q, :q!, and :wq after more than a decade of using as my primary OS. Once a FESCo ticket exists for this Change, it'll have my +1 vote. Fabio _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx