Re: RHEL 9 and modularity

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Josh Boyer <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:

> On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 2:54 PM David Cantrell <dcantrell@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 08:44:39AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
>> >Hopefully that provides some context and helps FESCo and the wider
>> >community understand where Red Hat is headed with modularity on the
>> >Enterprise side.
>>
>> Around the idea and concept of modularity... what are the benefits to Fedora,
>> Fedora developers, and Fedora contributors?  Through the various discussions
>> on modularity, nothing solid in this regard has been presented.  If I am
>> Fedora contributor now, what can modularity do for me?
>>
>> Most of the remainder of this thread talks about the problems with the
>> implementation as it exists today and problems with other known options.
>> Putting that aside for now, why should Fedora contributors care about
>> modularity?
>>
>> Put another way, what does the developer experience look like for modularity?
>
> These are good questions, but I feel like there has been about 2+
> years of discussion and debate about what Fedora could get out of
> modularity.

Well, a short tl;dr; would certainly help, as I must admit that even
after 2+ years of discussion I see very little incentive to modularize
any of my packages.

I see benefits of modularity for CentOS/RHEL, but not so clearly for
Fedora (except for more special cases like sway, where we have the
quickly evolving wlroots library and can thus deliver an up to date sway
even for older Fedora releases).

> I'm not sure I have anything to offer that is directly
> new or better.  I do think that ELN presents a new opportunity for
> those that have already found value in the Fedora community to use and
> improve it there in the absence of widespread Fedora adoption.
> Perhaps that would allow a place for the ideas to grow and could prove
> to be illustrative.
>
> At any rate, my goal isn't to evangelize or convert Fedora to suddenly
> embrace modularity wholescale.  I am simply offering clarity on the
> plans for RHEL 9 with this technology.
>
> josh
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