Dne 19. 05. 20 v 16:56 Miro Hrončok napsal(a):
On 19. 05. 20 16:46, Christopher wrote:
Interesting that the survey shows that the most common response was
that people use it "not at all" and the overall response was negative,
but the reaction to that is, "improve the docs" and "works as
intended". Am I the only one who thinks that the people pushing
modularity aren't listening to the larger community?
FWIW I understand the action point for this survey as a way to improve
the situation for environments where we are "stuck with modularity"
(such as RHEL and EPEL 8) rather than a call for action that says "if we
fix this, we'll proceed with Fedora modularization".
Exactly.
<official statement>
Our goal is to improve the *existing* implementation of Modularity (RHEL
8 and EPEL 8 compatibility is important for us) and make it *available*
to any projects under Fedora Project umbrella, which includes Fedora and
EPEL 8. That's why we'll focus on the docs in the first place. The
survey confirmed that people make a lot of assumptions about Modularity
and interpret it in their own ways and this is source of many
misunderstandings. When we're all on the same page, we can move on and
work on individual fixes.
Our goal (I speak for the people who *currently* work on Modularity
project at Red Hat) is *not* pushing anyone to use Modularity. It's up
to Fesco, SIGs, spin maintainers and individual package maintainers to
make their choices.
Please note that we are not the same people who created Modularity, we
took it over recently and we are expected to maintain it, not to
redesign it from scratch. Please give us a chance to prove that we
listen to the community.
</official statement>
<personal opinion>
I interpret the survey results that some people in Fedora would use
modules to build and distribute multiple versions of their software
stacks, but the increased complexity and related issues are not worth it.
I believe that to make Modularity successful and useful for the
community, we need to simplify it and better integrate it with the rpm
ecosystem. Make it more straightforward for those who build or
distribute modules and nearly invisible for those who consume them.
</personal opinion>
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