On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 10:18 PM Ty Young <youngty1997@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On 5/18/20 8:24 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > > > Dude, chill out. We're not going to go back to running X as root. The > > Nvidia overclocking tool is just not important at all (seriously, who > > cares?). If you're upset their proprietary software doesn't work > > anymore, you can ask them nicely to fix it please... or ask for the > > source code, and see how far that gets you. ;) > > > I'm well aware Fedora has no interest in correcting its breakage of > backwards compatibility. If you'd actually read all the messages you'd > realize it was all in the name of explaining why distros can't be > trusted to package software and shouldn't do it, including Java > applications. It went down this path naturally, as discussions tend to > do and have on this very mailing list without my involvement. > For what it's worth, this is not a change unique to Fedora. Arch, Debian, and other distributions run Xorg in a user session when GDM is the display manager. Some distributions may have elected to change GDM's behavior to the legacy behavior, but none I'm aware of today do so aside from Ubuntu (and that's only when the proprietary drivers are installed). That said, if you are using a display manager that does not support rootless Xorg, you'll get the legacy behavior. However, the writing is on the wall for both Xorg as root and Xorg as a whole. Fedora in this regard is a trailblazer and other distributions *will* follow. Several distributions have finally shipped GNOME with Wayland by default and removed their "hold-back" patches that reverted GDM and GNOME to legacy behaviors by default. Other desktop display managers are working on supporting running Xorg in the user session as well, and will likely drop support for running Xorg as root once they do. Your app will break everywhere, I can guarantee it. And to be quite honest, I'm tired of seeing you complain on this list without being even singularly helpful at all. You have provided virtually no constructive feedback and continue to attack the Fedora Project and its members. I do not know why you are even here, given that you seem to hate everything we do. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
