On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 01:30:57PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > That is another major concern, that decisions made by Fedora for Fedora > users depend more and more on input from people (and companies) who are NOT > Fedora users. What makes sense for RHEL and/or CentOS does not necessarily > make sense for Fedora (and for that matter, what makes sense for RHEL also > does not necessarily make sense for CentOS). Fedora decisions should depend > ONLY on the input and needs of Fedora users. Fedora has huge impact beyond our immediate userbase because we are the upstream for RHEL, CentOS, and their further derivatives. Take a look https://imgur.com/a/58OXYve. This is Fedora EPEL (which is part of our project!), not the downstreams themselves, but shows just *one* aspect of that impact. (It's so large that I see I need to figure out how to tell matplotlib to not shift to e notation!) I agree that when we make decisions in Fedora, we need to consider direct users of the OS we make first. But we are also making a system we _want_ to be useful as an upstream, and taking downstream needs into account is the only way we can succeed at that. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader Not the Pope _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx