----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Gallagher" <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: devel-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 11:53:47 PM > Subject: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V4 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > I've just published a fourth version[1] of the ELN proposal. With a > lot of input from Miro Hrončok, I think I've finally been able to > clarify some of the points that we were getting hung up on. > > Changes in this version of the proposal[2]: > > * Improve our explanation of why we are doing ELN in the first place > * Clarify the relationship with Rawhide > * Better describe what happens if packages don't build on ELN > * Explain our plan for when to use conditionals (this was getting a > larger share of the conversation than it warranted because we didn't > do a good job of explaining that they should be the exception and not > the rule) > * Clarify that the time limit on PRs is only for determining if the > maintainer is responsive. If they reply, the timer is cleared. > * Fixed the question about upstream features to make it clear that > what we meant is that new features should go upstream first, not be > implemented as a fork in ELN > * Added a section explaining how we will deal with side-tags > * Make it clear that we don't want to diverge wherever possible and > that any planned divergence should be discussed with the ELN SIG ahead > of time > * Cleaned up the contingency plan section. > > I hope that these changes will make our position more clear. Thank you > to everyone who has contributed to this discussion. I think the > feedback has been very valuable and I sincerely appreciate it. > > > > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ELN_Buildroot_and_Compose > [2] > https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Changes%2FELN_Buildroot_and_Compose&type=revision&diff=570854&oldid=570256 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > iQGzBAEBCAAdFiEEhQqd0dvyrMxvxJSRRduFpWgobREFAl6LpNgACgkQRduFpWgo > bRH4MAwAu1INM0mplL1yQiW2DMS148VubU5DkxRbaE3biZTvw5WzzbpxwpXr+nFp > eZf7IUyn5HCdtCAk1TQ4ga/TuV5VsaEEZ+a9p8PZfs4XTEMGpB7olP0Z8Jq1PWwn > EM6+4BAUWJ4JS7Q1+/CnEkUHA+1ZVeAzeb5bfSlcae2Vgx6evQMB4rEqAXdr16Qk > 3Hi082+4SutmBv67cRA/JdRZmvUaHYtS4y5DrWAXOS23k8SHUCT/2O2f7NRPAoG/ > f+04nG5JyUePY64pnVtDnsVMwETWiNSSs4V1dbKYe9Fj5H/jbvKIsvo8AWxw4BAq > rXCSIB3wMf08eM2KTaLvk0x+cz2BiSEZEDVdceffVXMwnUZulu/oeYDKdQg9OoHW > IQJbMoASgxRUXH1ZiMy8Q3SgQHvcu/YLmjS+djlVakLunhW7NfQjZB7txMyDi0PY > Hwn32C1kXnaoBJds4zB4QpWiJy5wI82CRL92Zvz0kiRPiO9TMCuj+t5kLZVmVTnI > 8ShPIeos > =+lwN > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > devel-announce mailing list -- devel-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-announce-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > I've glanced briefly through the changes, and while I didn't have time to properly solicit feedback on the info, I would like to say a big thank you for hearing our feedback and working with that. -- Regards, Charalampos Stratakis Software Engineer Python Maintenance Team, Red Hat _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx