-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 I've just published a fourth version[1] of the ELN proposal. With a lot of input from Miro Hrončok, I think I've finally been able to clarify some of the points that we were getting hung up on. Changes in this version of the proposal[2]: * Improve our explanation of why we are doing ELN in the first place * Clarify the relationship with Rawhide * Better describe what happens if packages don't build on ELN * Explain our plan for when to use conditionals (this was getting a larger share of the conversation than it warranted because we didn't do a good job of explaining that they should be the exception and not the rule) * Clarify that the time limit on PRs is only for determining if the maintainer is responsive. If they reply, the timer is cleared. * Fixed the question about upstream features to make it clear that what we meant is that new features should go upstream first, not be implemented as a fork in ELN * Added a section explaining how we will deal with side-tags * Make it clear that we don't want to diverge wherever possible and that any planned divergence should be discussed with the ELN SIG ahead of time * Cleaned up the contingency plan section. I hope that these changes will make our position more clear. Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this discussion. I think the feedback has been very valuable and I sincerely appreciate it. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ELN_Buildroot_and_Compose [2] https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Changes%2FELN_Buildroot_and_Compose&type=revision&diff=570854&oldid=570256 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGzBAEBCAAdFiEEhQqd0dvyrMxvxJSRRduFpWgobREFAl6LpNgACgkQRduFpWgo bRH4MAwAu1INM0mplL1yQiW2DMS148VubU5DkxRbaE3biZTvw5WzzbpxwpXr+nFp eZf7IUyn5HCdtCAk1TQ4ga/TuV5VsaEEZ+a9p8PZfs4XTEMGpB7olP0Z8Jq1PWwn EM6+4BAUWJ4JS7Q1+/CnEkUHA+1ZVeAzeb5bfSlcae2Vgx6evQMB4rEqAXdr16Qk 3Hi082+4SutmBv67cRA/JdRZmvUaHYtS4y5DrWAXOS23k8SHUCT/2O2f7NRPAoG/ f+04nG5JyUePY64pnVtDnsVMwETWiNSSs4V1dbKYe9Fj5H/jbvKIsvo8AWxw4BAq rXCSIB3wMf08eM2KTaLvk0x+cz2BiSEZEDVdceffVXMwnUZulu/oeYDKdQg9OoHW IQJbMoASgxRUXH1ZiMy8Q3SgQHvcu/YLmjS+djlVakLunhW7NfQjZB7txMyDi0PY Hwn32C1kXnaoBJds4zB4QpWiJy5wI82CRL92Zvz0kiRPiO9TMCuj+t5kLZVmVTnI 8ShPIeos =+lwN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ devel-announce mailing list -- devel-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-announce-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx