On Monday, 06 April 2020 at 12:41, Leigh Griffin wrote: > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:36 PM Randy Barlow <bowlofeggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > On 4/4/20 3:02 PM, Aoife Moloney wrote: > > > However we do > > > recognize that it was still nonetheless a decision that was not made > > > in public, and for that we can only now offer our apologies for this > > > mistake and learn a hard lesson from it. > > > > It's simply not true that this is the only thing that can be done. You > > can hold off on making a decision, and follow an open process instead. > > We are engaged with the Fedora Council on the next steps here for the > adoption of Gitlab / the retirement of Pagure from the CPE remit. That much > of the decision has been made, the actual specifics are what we are > engaging on to make sure that the Fedora needs are satisfied as we move > forward. The majority here is telling you to hold off execution of that "decision" and revisit it, but you're ignoring those voices entirely and offering useless "apologies" instead. You cannot pretend to be part of a community if you just ignore its other members and do your own thing. > > > We do want to let you know that we deeply appreciate the requirements > > > you have given us and would like to ask you to continue engaging with > > > us while we are moving through our next steps with GitLab. > > > > What would be the goal if the community were to continue to engage with > > CPE management when it has demonstrated that it does not meaningfully > > engage with the community? > > Your engagement influences how this will look in the future, we have enough > gathered to ensure that is the case but given the breadth and depth of > Fedora, we do wish for people to engage. You cannot wish for meaningful engagement in the future if you don't fix your past mistakes and reverse bad decisions. Regards, Dominik -- Fedora https://getfedora.org | RPM Fusion http://rpmfusion.org There should be a science of discontent. People need hard times and oppression to develop psychic muscles. -- from "Collected Sayings of Muad'Dib" by the Princess Irulan _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
