----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski" <dominik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 7:09:38 AM > Subject: Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04 > > On Monday, 06 April 2020 at 12:41, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:36 PM Randy Barlow <bowlofeggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > > > > On 4/4/20 3:02 PM, Aoife Moloney wrote: > > > > However we do > > > > recognize that it was still nonetheless a decision that was not made > > > > in public, and for that we can only now offer our apologies for this > > > > mistake and learn a hard lesson from it. > > > > > > It's simply not true that this is the only thing that can be done. You > > > can hold off on making a decision, and follow an open process instead. > > > > We are engaged with the Fedora Council on the next steps here for the > > adoption of Gitlab / the retirement of Pagure from the CPE remit. That much > > of the decision has been made, the actual specifics are what we are > > engaging on to make sure that the Fedora needs are satisfied as we move > > forward. > > The majority here is telling you to hold off execution of that > "decision" and revisit it, but you're ignoring those voices entirely and > offering useless "apologies" instead. You cannot pretend to be part of a > community if you just ignore its other members and do your own thing. That part isn't actually clear to me. There's certainly a vocal portion against using GitLab, but is that sufficient to determine it is the majority of the Fedora packager community? I at least felt tired of arguing and decided to mostly quit arguing versus continuing to participate in this thread. It'd be interesting to see if the FESCo election system could be repurposed to get a sense of all packagers' opinions, rather than make assumptions on how the community as a whole feels based on a few vocal members and their participation in the mailing lists. - Alex _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx