Paul Frields <stickster@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >>> Leigh Griffin a écrit : >>> >>>> To distill it down: >>>> >>>> - Gitlab has more features that are needed right now for our >>>> stakeholder group >>>> - Gitlab has an entire company dedicated to roadmap features, we do >>>> not. >>> >>> Unfortunately, Gitlab’s roadmap is also conflicting with Fedora >>> objectives. The bread and butter of Gitlab is intermediating between >>> devs and end users, culling free software intermediaries like >>> distributions, and positionning itself in their stead. That is >>> unlikely to result in any commitment to making distribution >>> workflows work. >>> >>> That would not be a problem if the disintermediation worked, but >>> like many actors Gitlab sees the $$$ and power in being the >>> desintermediator, and does not care if the result is deffective, as >>> long as $$$ and power flows its way. >> >> It's also important to note that at the core of GitLab's incentive >> model is that they want to remove incentives to use FOSS solutions in >> favor of their unified proprietary solution. They are constantly >> integrating features and capabilities into the proprietary parts to >> make it "juicier" for enterprises who don't really have a compunction >> about whether they are using Free Software solutions or not, or even >> may not be willing to support them if it was Free Software because of >> outmoded thinking. >> >> The consequence of this is that it starves interest and development in >> FOSS solutions, and contributes to making the FOSS ecosystem weaker >> over time. > > That statement rings hollow for me, when Github is arguably the single > biggest vendor of open source in the world, no part of itself is open > source, I assume you didn't mean quite that. Sure, it's not totally open source, but it's built on and uses open source tools, just like many other applications. In a personal example, I've fixed something on github by patching https://github.com/jch/html-pipeline/ . Or more bulk, there are 340 repos at https://github.com/github . Thanks, --Robbie
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