On 4/2/20 3:15 AM, clime wrote:
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 23:22, Paul Frields <stickster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 7:03 AM Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 6:52 AM Nicolas Mailhot via devel
<devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Le mercredi 01 avril 2020 à 11:30 +0100, Leigh Griffin a écrit :
To distill it down:
- Gitlab has more features that are needed right now for our
stakeholder group
- Gitlab has an entire company dedicated to roadmap features, we do
not.
Unfortunately, Gitlab’s roadmap is also conflicting with Fedora
objectives. The bread and butter of Gitlab is intermediating between
devs and end users, culling free software intermediaries like
distributions, and positionning itself in their stead. That is unlikely
to result in any commitment to making distribution workflows work.
That would not be a problem if the disintermediation worked, but like
many actors Gitlab sees the $$$ and power in being the
desintermediator, and does not care if the result is deffective, as
long as $$$ and power flows its way.
It's also important to note that at the core of GitLab's incentive
model is that they want to remove incentives to use FOSS solutions in
favor of their unified proprietary solution. They are constantly
integrating features and capabilities into the proprietary parts to
make it "juicier" for enterprises who don't really have a compunction
about whether they are using Free Software solutions or not, or even
may not be willing to support them if it was Free Software because of
outmoded thinking.
The consequence of this is that it starves interest and development in
FOSS solutions, and contributes to making the FOSS ecosystem weaker
over time.
That statement rings hollow for me, when Github is arguably the single
biggest vendor of open source in the world, no part of itself is open
source, and thanks to its pervasiveness, open source has won the war
of how development should work.
This is imho a contradictory statement. Github, being closed source
and pervasive, is a proof that open-source has won?
Yes, this really is a bizarre statement.
It also assumes people are perfectly okay with this, whereas many of us
are disgusted to the bone by this situation.
- Panu -
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