On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 10:02 AM David Cantrell <dcantrell@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 10:19:08AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > >So although this update clarifies some part, we have not moved anywhere: > > > > > >~~~ > > > >=== Can we do this in a branch instead of in master? === > > > >This adds no value to the current approach where Red Hat maintainers > >would manually merge their changes into the internal build > >infrastructure. There's no way to automate the sync from the `master` > >branch to the `eln` branch that wouldn't break and require maintainer > >involvement. Attempting to branch only individual packages would > >introduce significant complexity in the build process as well, leading > >to far more opportunity for bugs. Lastly, even the most diligent of > >maintainers can forget to sync every change to a new branch, thus > >leaving us in a situation where the `eln` branch has fallen behind and > >is no longer providing an accurate view of whether the package is still > >building or functioning in that environment. > > > >~~~ > > > > > >I wonder where this comes from. I am participating in this thread, > >representing Ruby maintainers in RHEL and Fedora, in other places of the > >thread, I see Miro Hrončok, Tomáš Orsava and Pert Viktorin representing > >Python RHEL and Fedora maitainers, as well as Petr Písař, the RHEL and > >Fedora representative of Perl. All in all, it represents ~1/2 packages > >in Fedora/RHEL. I hope that I can say that these people shares a view > >that branch, fork, PR is the way to go. > > > >Yet we are not able to convince you. So I wonder who this proposal > >actually represents? Who is the target audience? Who are the Red Hat > >maintainers you mentioned in the proposal? > > > > I think the FAQ entry above could be phrased better, but my understanding is > that we should really want rawhide to be where upstream RHEL work happens. > Creating another branch for this work effectively creates two rawhides and I > think ELN would suffer as a result. > Yes, this is exactly the point I'm trying to make. I'll see what I can do to make that clearer in the Proposal. > Another thing to consider is that we should want ELN builds happening as > rapidly as rawhide builds. ELN is not something to set up and maintain as it > were RHEL. Thank you! Yes, exactly. If all we wanted was to create a new branch to maintain, we would probably just not bother trying to work in Fedora at all (at both Fedora's and Red Hat's loss). _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
