On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 17:47 +0200, jkonecny@xxxxxxxxxx wrote: > -- snip -- > > As for Pagure itself, I think this is where we fundamentally > > disagree. > > I think it behooves us to own and provide an experience tailored for > > our community from beginning to end. That's why we have Koji, Bodhi, > > Dist-Git, and many other tools in that part of the lifecycle. The > > packager experience is literally the lifeblood of the project, and > > our > > contributors are the core of what makes Fedora successful. Pagure > > gives us an opportunity to do right by them that I *really* don't > > think we can do with any alternatives. > > > > That does *not* mean that CPE team should be the sole owner of the > > Pagure *codebase*. On that point, I agree. And that's why I've spent > > a > > lot of time and energy since late 2018 working on building up that > > community. It's finally starting to bear fruit too: there's at least > > one entity interested in building a product around it and > > contributing > > to help support that product, there's the FSF preparing to launch a > > new forge using Pagure, there's the Trisquel GNU+Linux distribution > > working on a Pagure deployment to host their code and packaging, and > > there's a few other things I've got up my sleeve to help broaden the > > community with not just users, but also contributors. > > It's great to hear this. Thanks a lot Neal for trying to find > consumers. I'm not sure if this information was available to Fedora > infrastructure during the decision. It means that we may have another > contributors. I specifically mentioned at least the FSF angle on this mailing list, over a month ago: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/EJAKU3MO4T5ZEWEBUWIRSGBWTFQU44QK/ so at least that part certainly *should* have been, if we assume it's reasonable to expect those making this decision to be paying attention to this list. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx