I thought CPE ("Community Platform Engineering") is a part of the community. But no, because you want to hand over pagure.io to "the Community", so what community is that...People that don't have hardware? It seems that the whole proposal is trying to make src.fp.o and git.centos.org part of a corporate solution and therefore eat a huge part of Fedora & CentOS ecosystems and of their independence. Do you realize how valuable the Fedora upstream is for RHEL? The thing that I am saying is suggested by points like: > 5 > As a RH Developer > I need the ability to privately comment on a PR > so that confidential information does not leak outside Red Hat > 8 > As a RHEL engineer > I want a modern git workflow > So that I can use upstream practices in RHEL development for quicker delivery of features & fixes Taking points like this into account for Fedora dist-git only makes sense if RHEL development would take place directly on src.fp.o. But that's not the case. We have community upstream and then there is RHEL that further uses and processes the upstream work. While there is some overlap in people, these are still two separate software development domains. Your suggestion is: "Let's break everything." Do you know how many existing integrations with pagure there are? Do you know how much time and also emotions was put into building it? Do you say all that work was useless? It's not only about technology but it's also about how many people connected on it with a vision to build something good. And by trying to overcome the feature gap, this can continue. Fedora is a community Linux distribution with people that want to work together on something, it's not just some dumb package factory. Do you want a community help on pagure? Ask for it but not by handing it a project that RH does not want to maintain anymore but instead try first to describe the feature gap we are missing and see if it can be overcome by a collective effort. It's better than rushing into a decision which is breaking an extreme amount of stuff and which might put into grave a good reusable technology that we have and that we could also offer to other people and other communities for free so that open-source can thrive. Fedora dist-git is using pagure, CentOS dist-git is using pagure so both these parties are, in my opinion, okay with it already. Let's build on something we already have instead of destroying it over and over again. Only this is a way for Fedora community to be a leading party in the open-source and free software, which it should be. clime _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx