On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 6:18 PM Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > I don't maintain an kmods, but from what I observe in the package > > commits, they break with each new Fedora kernel release and the > > maintenance burden is even higher for older nVidia driver versions. > > > > You're welcome to help with automation, but I'm afraid hunting for > > patches or writing them yourself will be a constant manual job in this > > case. > > Well, if the kmod breaks, the akmod almost certainly breaks too, the same > way, you just don't notice it (at least until the end user bug reports start > coming in). That is another reason why the akmod approach is flawed. > > So, sure, there is work that cannot be automated, but that is exactly the > part of the work that has to be done for akmods as well, and an automated > kmod build process would automatically alert you as soon as the kernel gets > released. (Ideally, as soon as it gets built in Fedora Koji, or at least as > soon as it hits updates-testing, whereas most users will only notice the > akmod breaking after it hits the stable updates.) > This goes back to the thing I've been talking about in other threads for years: unnecessary grunt work to force people to manually do rebuilds which could be triggered via automation. While these days, we say the reason why Fedora doesn't do kmod packages is because we'd rather have all the stuff in the upstream kernel, I remember that much of the original reasoning for yanking them out was that it was too troublesome for everyone trying to maintain kmod packages to do rebuilds each time the kernel was bumped. The user experience sucked because we didn't have (and still don't have) a good mechanism for ensuring kmods were built and submitted along with every kernel update. Funnily enough, this same problem has manifested in a different, more annoying and critical form: the gcc <-> annobin issue. Every single gcc update has managed to break briefly whenever they forget to rebuild annobin along with it. Maybe one day we'll get smart dependency rebuilding that actually submits to the build system. Koschei is just a few steps shy of being able to do just that... -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
