On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 9:09 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 05, 2020 at 09:02:47AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 9:00 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 05, 2020 at 02:29:38PM +0100, Daniel Mach wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dne 04. 03. 20 v 23:01 Neal Gompa napsal(a): > > > > >On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 4:37 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > > > ><zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > >>Are you going to use sd-bus for the dbus library? > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >I'd hope not, given that we have cross-distro usage of DNF now, and a > > > > >couple of them don't have systemd. > > > > > > > > > Do you know which distros do not have systemd? > > > > > > > > We have evaluated sd-bus to be the best dbus client available, but > > > > we may have underestimated it's adoption. > > > > > > > > Couldn't systemd team split it into a separate library independent > > > > on the rest of the systemd eco-system? :) > > > > > > It's already a separate library independent from the rest of the > > > systemd eco-system ;) > > > > > > (OK, it's a single library with other parts included, but the sd-bus > > > part is the biggest by far, and also sd-bus uses sd-event and sd-128 > > > internally, so they'd be required anyway. The other parts are smaller, > > > and matter more because of dependencies they pull in than because of > > > the code size itself. But it is possible to compile libsystemd w/o > > > some features, notably without encryption, to save size and deps. > > > I don't think there's any significant barrier to using libsystemd > > > on non-systemd systems, except for psychological issues.) > > > > > > > Don't discount psychological issues. The original reason for DNF not > > being named YUM was so that the project would be free to do better > > without the YUM baggage. That had the added effect of making it easier > > to propose for other distributions to adopt because YUM has a very > > negative reputation outside of the RHEL space. > > ;]]] Let's just hope that the underlying ipc library is something that > is not visible to users ;) > The BuildRequires: systemd-devel generally gives it away, and the failure to build because of that missing dependency is usually a problem. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
