On Sunday, February 9, 2020 3:54:51 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote: > On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 5:36 PM John M. Harris Jr <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > > > > On Friday, January 31, 2020 7:58:55 AM MST Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > > Feankly if a proprietary piece of software hasn't migrated in 8+ years > > > I > > > would be looking for a replacement. > > > > > > > > Proprietary software works at the speed of eventually. This is why RHEL > > maintains compat libraries going back a ridiculous amount of time, and > > why > > RHEL 5, for example, is still used today. > > > > > > > At some point, someone has to push to eject button. Speaking from > experience, it's rare that ISVs are willing to be proactive and move > forward as the community does. The difference between FOSS ISVs and > proprietary software ISVs is that the community cannot do anything to > help fix software for the latter. They only move forward when forced to. > > I'm sorry, but it simply does not make sense to keep gstreamer0.10 in > Fedora anymore. I don't say that lightly: the first package I ever > contributed to Fedora was a pygtk2 application using gstreamer0.10 > called oggconvert. But it is dead this days, and I retired it for > Fedora 31. Nobody is caring for these things, and stuff like this is > usually a source of major security issues. > > Even today, those people using RHEL 5 are only *now* moving to RHEL 7 > because it was EOLed three years ago. Folks depending on RHEL 6 who > are slow to move are starting their plans to move to RHEL 8. It is > what it is. But Fedora is not RHEL. Fedora is supposed to be the place > where everything happens first. And if we want RHEL releases without > old, unmaintained stuff, we have to chuck it in Fedora first. I don't know about you, but I'd rather the software keeps working, rather than ceasing to function because a library it depends on is no longer available. As long as it builds and functions, why remove it? -- John M. Harris, Jr. Splentity _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx