Re: Java Dev Group and Fedora Quality

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Hello Ty,

On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 1:42 AM Ty Young <youngty1997@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> The unfortunate reality is that none of what you describe will likely
> change in any significant way, at least not with the standard Linux
> distros(Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian, Arch) etc. Too much of Linux is ideology
> based(GNU, among other political ideologies) instead of just making the
> best software/platform possible, which pushes away people who would like
> to contribute and use Linux software. There is little, if any,
> compromises by those who believe in these ideologies. They are willing
> to stand by their beliefs until the very end.

How you conduct yourself in your everyday life, whether you realize it
or not, not only reflects your political beliefs, it is in itself
politics. Someone volunteering a portion of their finite time to a
project that benefits many, but does not result in direct compensation
for them, is a deeply political act. Without ideologists willing to
fight for their beliefs and stand their ground, we'd all be worshiping
god-kings, who'd hold an absolute power over the life or death of
their subjects. In a much narrower scope, over the last thirty years
or so, had there not been ideologists promoting and defending the
precious idea of Free Software, we'd all be doomed to run windows and
browse a Microsoft-defined web using internet explorer.

Your own post, is indeed political and it is quite telling. I do not
know what your particular beef with GNOME is and frankly I don't care.
Bill here had one of the healthiest reactions to the situation he was
facing. He actually offered to do something about it, instead of
whining. That should serve as an example.


> It's best not to bring up any such issues, especially in Fedora/Gnome
> home turf. They have "Code of Conduct" nukes that are used to silence
> any discussion they don't agree with. Just take a look at the Gnome
> subreddit, wherein the moderators have been caught and continue to issue
> thread/comment locks and temp bans for (nicely) pointing out bugs in
> Gnome. It's scary stuff, and is only getting worse with Gnome's Code of
> Conduct allowing racism. They will deny it endlessly that this is the
> intent but have publicly fought against revising it to clear up the
> intent after public outcry.

The Code of Conduct is decided by people participating in the project.
Among its objectives, is to protect those doing actual and often
thankless work from the demoralizing abuse of ungrateful and entitled
egoists, hiding behind a computer screen and a handle. The Code of
Conduct is not set in stone and those participating in the project may
at any time choose to alter it. Participation is the operative word
here and under no circumstance does griping count as participation.
Neal already covered the other points I wanted to make.
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