Re: Java Dev Group and Fedora Quality

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Hi Bill,


Not an average Fedora user but I've used several Linux distributions(including Fedora and versions there of) over the years. What you are bringing up is 100% valid and isn't new or specific to Fedora. It's been a known and valid complaint that there isn't enough software in distro X or that the quality of what does exist in distro X is poor.


The unfortunate reality is that none of what you describe will likely change in any significant way, at least not with the standard Linux distros(Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian, Arch) etc. Too much of Linux is ideology based(GNU, among other political ideologies) instead of just making the best software/platform possible, which pushes away people who would like to contribute and use Linux software. There is little, if any, compromises by those who believe in these ideologies. They are willing to stand by their beliefs until the very end.


This, sadly, results in the situation where we are now: lots of Linux distributions and/or desktop shells that are either of poor quality or abandoned. Software developers don't want to support half or dozen(or more!) Linux distributions, so they either don't support Linux or only target a specific distribution. That makes users mad and leave so developers don't bother targeting those distributions... and well, yeah, you get the idea.


It's best not to bring up any such issues, especially in Fedora/Gnome home turf. They have "Code of Conduct" nukes that are used to silence any discussion they don't agree with. Just take a look at the Gnome subreddit, wherein the moderators have been caught and continue to issue thread/comment locks and temp bans for (nicely) pointing out bugs in Gnome. It's scary stuff, and is only getting worse with Gnome's Code of Conduct allowing racism. They will deny it endlessly that this is the intent but have publicly fought against revising it to clear up the intent after public outcry.


Be silent and fall in line, or be sent to the gulag.


Hope this helps.



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