On 2020-01-23 11:26, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 10:28:52 -0500,
Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
We don't need to. There are improvements that people would like, and
that does take development effort. That's the piece that requires
manpower to go faster.
In my opinion, I think this is where Red Hat should be helping. Pagure
has a chance to change what free projects use for software
development. Github isn't free (though they do some nice things for
free software). Gitlab is open core, which means they have a conflict
of interest when accepting improvements from outsiders. They could
also stop supporting the open core at any time, leaving users who want
infrastructure running on free software in a poor place.
I completely agree with this. I find it rather bizarre that I came to
know FOSS almost exclusively because of Red Hat, yet it seems the
majority of the projects I contribute to are now being hosted on Github,
a Microsoft-owned company. I'd be rather incredulous if someone told me
it was going to be like this back in the 90s. I've little experience
with Gitlab, but plenty with Pagure from an internal instance and a few
projects on pagure.io like Koji. I love Pagure and all this talk of
possibly pushing it aside for Fedora makes me sad. I thought it was the
way forward and was just getting to an excellent footing. Pagure might
not be a money-making product but it sure can help build a community in
an environment that is void of any potential corporate hostility.
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