On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 9:08 AM Ernestas Kulik <ekulik@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, 2020-01-22 at 05:00 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > And then there's the issue that we are not upstream and might > > > > have to > > > > maintain the integration as a downstream patch forever as > > > > upstream might > > > > not want it. > > > > > > They've provided pretty good support to various other open source > > > communities such as GNOME and Freedesktop/Xorg. > > > > > > > Yes, but neither of those communities actually have terribly special > > requirements. In fact, those communities either had *nothing* in > > terms > > of infrastructure (FreeDesktop/Xorg) or were willing to throw > > everything away for GitLab (GNOME). We would not fit in either > > bucket, > > which makes GitLab a very awkward fit for us. > > “Throw everything away”? Just how much of the transition did you > follow? > > GitLab was more than accommodating in pulling features out of the > enterprise edition into the community one that were crucial for our > workflows. It was not done on a whim and I really resent your > statements here. > I followed it pretty closely. In the GNOME case, you were willing to throw away Bugzilla, CGit, and older CI infrastructure to replace it with GitLab. You guys also renamed some of your repositories to accommodate the restrictions on project naming by GitLab. A lot of retooling was required as part of the transition to GitLab for GNOME. That, by my definition, is throwing away everything. It had knock on effects for everyone downstream as well, as all the tools for tracking GNOME also broke and needed to change. Again, that's fine if the community is generally accepting of this pain, but it is still pain, even if you refuse to acknowledge it. -- 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx