Hi, Chris, On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 4:29 PM Chris Adams <linux@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Once upon a time, Aleksandra Fedorova <alpha@xxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > > Similarly to what Josh said, we want to setup an environment for experiments. > > It doesn't mean that things we experiment on are going to be merged in > > Fedora. And it definitely doesn't mean that whatever we did in the > > experimental environment can bypass the approval process. > > > > It is not a backdoor for rejected change, it is a way to safely > > iterate on the rejected change to see if we can come up with a version > > of it, which won't be rejected. > > So... I guess my objections are all based on the proposal as written, > which doesn't sound to me like what you are describing. What the > proposal says is all about rebuilding Fedora with the rejected baseline > change, and showing that it is better to get the community to accept the > original change. It also uses the term "older machines" (which is still > misleading). I have adjusted the description of the change in a way that I think clarifies this part. Please check if it is better now. Also I've posted some context in a separate thread [1]. I think the current change is important to Fedora also as a showcase that we, as a project, care not only about the internal distribution matters but in some large developments in the "outside world". That we can also provide a venue for, for example, hardware vendors to show their newest work. The rejection is a valuable feedback here, it highlights that it is not enough to just push a new hardware spec to the market to get it adopted. But we can also try to find a way how actually it _can_ be done better. [1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/3Z5SMF6CPL3MK2CNYPUW4OZYMA6TZJBN/ > -- > Chris Adams <linux@xxxxxxxxxxx> > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Aleksandra Fedorova bookwar _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx