On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 03:05, Benson Muite <benson_muite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >> Thank you for the PDF. However, the presentation is sightly outdated > >> given the listed hardware dating from 2008. Some modern laptops are > >> equipped with a IR camera Windows Hello type device which could be > >> suitable for iris recognition similar to devices like Samsung Galaxy S9. > > Thanks for feedback. Not having to remember many passwords is very > > useful. > > Maybe am wrong about faces/fingerprints as passwords: > > https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2019/05/08/5 > The issue is that both are ok 2nd factors of authentication but not primary. The number of points on the finger or face that need to be tracked to make it a strong factor is enormous and then you have work out ways to deal with noise. A lot of the built in ones only track a few points or don't worry about noise to the point that you can put a person's near relative up to the camera and it will say yep thats the person. [Or you can simply print a 3d mask or finger and put it up and it will do the same.] The problem is that most people don't want to 2 or 3 things.. they want 1 thing which won't take a lot of work. So we constantly try to remove the hard thing which is the strongest security for something simpler. It is like the users who would set their password to 'password' because they had a card which gave 1 time passwords and were shocked that it was easy to either guess the key or mitm and get the key. They key wasn't ever meant to be the primary method of protection.. it is only meant to help assure that the person who has the password is probably the person who should have it. Fingerprint and facial recognition are only useful in helping assure that you are the right person at the keyboard. Relying on it as the only method is going to lead to easily hacked system. -- Stephen J Smoogen. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx