On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 09:08:20AM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020, at 6:41 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: > > > > I'd love to find a way to directly integrate the likes of gem, npm > > etc directly into our packaging rather than us having to repackage > > everything by hand but I just don't see any way of doing it without > > compromising what we do to the extent that we're not really doing > > anything useful at all and are just shoveling out whatever nonsense > > upstreams perpetrate without question. > > Implicit in this is the idea that value should be captured at a secondary distribution layer. Implicit in this is the idea that distribution forks *need* to happen. But they don't. > > In fact, everyone here can work upstream too! If e.g. someone upstream messes up licensing, the mindset shouldn't be "oh man those upstream developers are incompetent, let's patch it downstream". > > Join upstream. Review *code* not spec files. Fix *code* not spec files. That's the most valuable thing for FOSS - not spec files. This is pretty much how we've been working with the upstream OCaml packaging community (Debian even more than us). Get them to improve things to make downstream packaging easier. It's been a very slow business, but things have improved a lot in the last few years (yay - they now support destdir installs!) Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com virt-p2v converts physical machines to virtual machines. Boot with a live CD or over the network (PXE) and turn machines into KVM guests. http://libguestfs.org/virt-v2v _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
