Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Adopting sysusers.d format

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On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 5:42 AM Panu Matilainen <pmatilai@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On 1/3/20 12:35 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 4:01 AM Panu Matilainen <pmatilai@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 1/2/20 5:29 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 10:14 AM Ben Cotton <bcotton@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> For us, since we don't have the SUSE patches that make PreReq do
> >>> things, the way we'd declare this with upstream RPM features would be:
> >>
> >> Please don't spread misinformation, openSUSE doesn't have patches to
> >> make PreReq anyhow special. They merely undo the deprecation warning
> >> that is issued on PreReq. With or without that, a PreReq will be
> >> translated to Requires(pre,preun) to simulate what the original PreReq did.
> >>
> >
> > Huh, for some reason I thought it also did something else...
> >
> >>>
> >>> Requires: user(wwwrun)
> >>> OrderWithRequires: user(wwwrun)
> >>
> >> I'm not sure how one is supposed to read the above, but certainly one
> >> does NOT need both Requires and OrderWithRequires on the same thing in a
> >> package. Requires(pre) might be in order because for user/group you
> >> really want them installed first in case of loops, but this is details
> >> without
> >
> > OtherWithRequires makes it so that if it's in the same transaction,
> > it'll get installed before this package. Otherwise it doesn't matter,
> > yes.
>
> Um, what?
>
> OrderWithRequires behaves exactly like Requires for *ordering*. There's
> no additional mystery magic there.
>
> OtherWithRequires can be used to affect ordering in the case no hard
> dependency exists. With users, there's always a hard dependency, and
> OrderWithRequires achieves nothing at all but obfusctation.
>

Well, then, today I learned I guess. Does Requires(pre) work even
without a %pre script?


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