On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 9:32 PM John M. Harris Jr <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Sunday, December 15, 2019 9:14:53 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 7:48 PM John M. Harris Jr <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > While that may be representative of "where the market is going", it's not > > > representative of where we are. Please keep in mind that we support far > > > more than just the latest generation hardware. We don't support quite as > > > much as Debian, but we have many users who don't have UEFI, or have early > > > UEFI firmware, which doesn't support USB boot. > > > > > > Fedora QA has variably floated dropping the physical optical boot > > criterion for at least the past two or three years. In terms of > > testing, it's where we have been for a while. > > It simply is not where we are now, nor have we been "for a while". Based on what facts? You merely repeating yourself over and over until people give up? The facts are in emails and IRC conversations Adam previously cited in this very thread. This isn't a new problem or concern. And i was involved in those conversations. I'm not making things up and just saying them as if I wish they were true, or as if saying things makes them true. > > > > This is a good example of what I mentioned about hardware that runs > > > Fedora. Many people won't want to replace their hardware just because > > > their OS is randomly throwing out compatibility for it, like we have been > > > prone to do in Fedora recently. > > > > > > Hyberbole. This is not an arbitrary proposal or process. > > It is completely arbitrary. It works right now. Testing it requires very > little user time, and only needs to be done after automated tests have already > passed. hy·per·bo·le /hīˈpərbəlē/ noun: hyperbole; plural noun: hyperboles exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally. The change proposal lays out clear subjective and objective reasoning, and the change proposal process includes this now 70 some odd email thread discussion, and it's not yet decided by FESCo. These are objective processes. You calling them completely arbitrary cannot be taken seriously. It's an unserious ridiculous characterization. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
