On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 8:00 PM Troy Dawson <tdawson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I would like to introduce a plan I call Square 1 [1][2] > > There are two goals to Square 1. > The first is to get, and keep, the core buildroot[3] packages, self-hosting[4]. > The second is to get the list of core buildroot packages as small as possible. > > What are the benefits to Square 1? > More stable release and less failed builds. > If we are able to shrink binaries, faster koji builds. > Smoother initial creation of RHEL 9.[5] > > What are the milestones to get these benefits? > - Get initial list of "core binaries" > - write/find software that will find binary/source dependencies > - write/find software that will track binary/source dependencies > - write/find/setup automation that finds and tracks binary/source > dependencies, so people can easily see what has changed over time. > - work with package maintainers to trim down binary/source dependencies > -- trimming out "extra" package languages. (ex: perl for a > minor script, when everything is in python.) > -- trimming functionality and/or moving functionality to sub-packages > or separate package. > - integrate these tests into the rawhide gating system, to alert when > new dependencies have been added. > > Much of this work overlaps with the Fedora Minimization efforts.[6] > Square 1 hopes to utilize, rather than duplicate, their efforts. And > maybe some tools created for Square 1 can help the minimization > efforts. > > Thoughts? > Ideas? > Comments? > > Troy Dawson > > [1] - Square 1 is at the heart of Ring Zero > [2] - This has nothing to do with the company or software with a > similar sounding name. > [3] - The core buildroot is the packages in @buildsys-build, and > everything needed to build those packages. Hi, Going a bit off-topic here, there is currently no @buildsys-build group in EPEL8, is that on purpose or work in progress? I was curious to see how mock dealt with that and the current configuration installs individual packages by name. Thanks, Dridi > [4] - self-hosting is the ability to build all the packages on themselves. > [5] - Yep, I said it. We're already looking at RHEL 9. > [6] - https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/minimization/ > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
