Re: Modularity: The Official Complaint Thread

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On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 4:00 PM Miro Hrončok <mhroncok@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On 14. 11. 19 21:32, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 3:28 PM Miro Hrončok <mhroncok@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 14. 11. 19 21:15, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> >>> Now, python3:3.7 vs. python3:3.8 might be a more interesting question...
> >>
> >> The way Python is designed, 3.7 and 3.8 is parallel installable by default.
> >>
> >> The only things that conflict are:
> >>
> >>    - package names, such as python3 or python3-pytest
> >>    - executable names, such as /usr/bin/python3 or /usr/bin/pytest
> >>
> >> By having the python3 modules with 3.7 and 3.8 streams, we would kill this
> >> feature of Python while gaining a very little benefit (such as that users/admins
> >> might select a stream to determine what version /usr/bin/python3 is).
> >>
> >> Not to mention that dnf itself depends on Python, so we would need to have dnf
> >> in those modules, or rewrite dnf in Rust or use mcirodnf or have
> >> /usr/libexec/platform-python for dnf.
> >
> > I was actually thinking more along the lines of: leave the actual
> > python packages as
> > non-modular but have a module that acts like the old `alternatives`
> > tool to set up which binaries should own the main executable names. It
> > would allow us to do the thing I proposed earlier around the major
> > upgrade rebuilds (letting us set other modules as `buildrequires:` of
> > `python: [ ]` for stream expansion) without actually having to build
> > the complete python stack in the modules. That might be a really
> > convenient strategy, honestly.
>
> Convenient to achieve what exactly?
>

To achieve an easy way to deal with modular rebuilds for new Python 3 versions.
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