On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 12:23 PM John M. Harris Jr <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Believe me, I wish that the ideal distribution was possible too. The > > reality is that the world has gone in a different direction and Fedora > > needs to adapt to that. Holding the line and refusing to budge just > > means people will go around us and stop considering us relevant. > > This is simply not true. Debian is another clear example of this. > Unfortunately, Debian is pretty much the reason why things have swung away from distributions. They operate in an extreme with a somewhat hostile contribution model with aging, yet horrible tooling and a culture for inaction. Their policies, tooling, and culture are essentially antithetical to what people generally want. If you look at a large swath of things using Debian as a base, they often *ignore* what Debian provides and put their own stuff on top. There's almost no real reuse from Debian, and that's the great tragedy. Fedora has some advantages over Debian: our policies and culture is generally favorable to those with a bias for action. Our tooling is nowhere near as crufty as Debian's (though it's still not as nice as openSUSE's in some cases). And our community is pretty well-engaged compared to most, and we're not generally seeing a downward trend in contributors (based on what Matthew said at Flock). And most obviously, our software is much more up to date on a regular basis than most other distributions. That said, we *do* need to improve things and find new ways to make Fedora appealing to more people, especially newer-generation infra types and software developers. Otherwise, we'll lose the pipeline of fresh blood into the project and eventually stagnate like Debian has. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
