Alex Scheel wrote: > In an ideal world, Modularity would've been proposed to Fedora, > it would've been discussed by the community, improved, perfected, > and _then_ brought into the RHEL fold only when stable! Fedora > would've _driven_ the innovation, rather than having to keep up > with whatever RHEL decided to do, being careful not to break > anything. Well, that would have been the only way to do things that would have made sense. > We don't live in an ideal world and deadlines, initial rejection > by Fedora, and issues implementing Modularity forced at least _some_ > of it to go the other direction, RHEL -> Fedora. > > So now we're stuck trying to improve Modularity in Fedora, without > stepping on any RHEL toes, and knowing full well that if the > community rejects Modularity in Fedora (again!), we're stuck supporting > it in RHEL through RHEL 8 (and, likely into RHEL 9). And I think that > worries some people, hence the attempt to influence discussions, name > calling, &c. Others however, want Fedora to remain fully independent > of RHEL, and thus have asked that _failure_ be an option explicitly > on the table. It was purely a business decision of Red Hat to ship RHEL 8 with an unfinished alpha version of Modularity instead of giving it the time to mature in Fedora (either pushing back the RHEL 8 release (it's not like any release date was actually announced, nor like pushing back RHEL waiting for Fedora to stabilize has never been done, see how RHEL 6 was based on Fedora 12 rather than 9 due to the major changes in Fedora 9) or pushing back Modularity to RHEL 9) and it is not fair that Fedora has to deal with the consequences of that decision. The only mistake Fedora has made was to accept Modularity in its current state at all, giving in to the pressure from RHEL developers. Kevin Kofler _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx