On ti, 15 loka 2019, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
On Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:40:31 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote:
And to be fair, while it is a hard problem to solve, it's a worthy
one. It makes sense and if done well, could really distinguish Fedora
from the rest in providing a way for codifying individual lifecycles
separately from the distribution. Moreover, with all the container
circus stuff going on, it's become even more important to enable some
kind of parallel availability.
If "parallel availability" is the problem Modularity is trying to solve, it
seems that Modularity is a failure. You can't install more than one version of
a package at once.
You are mixing up parallel availability and parallel installability.
These aren't the same. Modularity does solve parallel availability
problem. It was never designed to solve parallel installability problem.
Anyway, this is off topic, in my eyes, the best course of action is to simply
require that all modules have a non-modular version in Fedora. This can also
be done for things that are currently default modules. Sure, those who have
existing installs with modules won't get their install fixed with the current
code, but new installations would. That's a start.
I don't think it is not only reasonable to have this requirement but it
is also detrimental to the project to have the requirement that
basically doubles the amount of work volunteers have to do. Simply
providing content of default modules in non-modular way ignores the fact
that you somehow need to be able to rebuild those packages and they
might depend in their build dependencies on packages from other modules,
including non-default streams.
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/ Alexander Bokovoy
Sr. Principal Software Engineer
Security / Identity Management Engineering
Red Hat Limited, Finland
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