On Tuesday, October 15, 2019 12:16:06 PM MST Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:42:33AM -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > On Tuesday, October 15, 2019 11:39:20 AM MST Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 05:05:51PM +0000, John M. Harris, Jr. wrote: > > > > There is a difference between ignoring proprietary software, and > > > > providing > > > > installation methods for it in the distro. It is against the first of > > > > the > > > > Four Foundations, Freedom, to include these repositories. It's one > > > > thing > > > > if the user seeks out the software and installs it themselves, it's > > > > another if we're baiting them into installing software that does not > > > > provide the four Essential Freedoms. > > > > > > > > Not only that, but we can make no guarantee as to the state of these > > > > repos > > > > or the state of the software, as it is proprietary. This is also a > > > > potential issue for Fedora Legal. > > > > > > As noted upthread, this policy was approved by the Fedora Council and > > > definitely passed through Fedora Legal. > > > > > > I understand that some folks disagree, but I don't think re-litigating > > > it at this point is very productive unless there's some new information > > > that has come to light. > > > > > > kevin > > > > I can't see where recommending *proprietary* software was approved, only > > third party software. > > proprietary software is a subset of third party software right? > > One of the early drivers of this discussion as I recall was chrome, > which is definitely a third party software that is also proprietary. > > Anyhow, I guess if the workstation working group hasn't answered things > to your satisfaction, you're welcome to open a council ticket and ask > them to clarify. > > kevin Proprietary software is certainly a subset of third party software, however, please read the Workstation group's own page about third party software. According to that documentation, the Workstation group itself or FESCo is meant to approve it before it is allowed, and it may require Fedora Legal sign-off, as it may present considerable risk. -- John M. Harris, Jr. Splentity _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
