Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

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On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 05:14:59PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:57 PM Jeremy Cline <jeremy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:49:31PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:47 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> > > <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:45PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > > > Instead I prefer a clone of the master upstream git repo and maintain a
> > > > > branch with patches cherry-picked into it. This is used to auto-generate
> > > > > patches for the Fedora RPM, at the same time updating the patch file list
> > > > > in the RPM spec. The only manual step is adding the changelog entry &
> > > > > bumping release number.
> > > >
> > > > Quick note: this is essentially what debian does.
> > >
> > > Ugh. Can we please just agree that source-git (vs. dist-git) is almost
> > > always a bad idea?
> > >
> >
> > Can you expand on that? To me it is a much easier way to maintain
> > packages, but I don't have tons of experience doing that and I'm
> > perhaps not the "average package maintainer". Hearing other perspectives
> > would be helpful.
> 
> Sorry, I should have expanded on that short statement.
> 
> I literally maintain hundreds of packages, mostly by myself (yes,
> that's too many, but that's a problem that tooling can't fix).
> I'd hazard to guess that 90% of these packages don't contain *any*
> patches on top of an upstream release. So pointing the .spec file to
> an upstream tarball is the *absolute easiest thing* possible, and I
> don't want to have to deal with the upstream git repo contents for
> these packages at all.
> For another 9% of packages, I maintain a small set of local patches
> (up to two patches or so), which I can "generate on the fly" for every
> new upstream release (if necessary), and which is only a small amount
> of work.
> For the remaining 1% (about 2-3 of my packages), I maintain a local
> git repository with branches for every release, where I maintain a
> small downstream patch-set. This seems to correspond to a source-git
> approach, and might be similar to what you're doing.
> 
> So, to summarize: I just don't want the absolute edge case to become
> the general case. It would make things *massively* more complicated
> for me, and I guess that applies to the "average packager" in fedora,
> as well.
> 

Ah right, that makes a lot of sense.

I can imagine automatically detecting the new upstream release, building
that, and presenting the packager with a easy-to-review PR that you just
click "merge" on instead of pointing the specfile at a new tarball.

Some of these could (I think) be solved with quality tooling, but I
don't see that kind of stuff appearing any time soon. I do think all
these things would have to be addressed, though, and I definitely agree
that the corner cases shouldn't drive the workflow.

- Jeremy
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