Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

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On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:57 PM Jeremy Cline <jeremy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:49:31PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:47 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> > <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:45PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > > Instead I prefer a clone of the master upstream git repo and maintain a
> > > > branch with patches cherry-picked into it. This is used to auto-generate
> > > > patches for the Fedora RPM, at the same time updating the patch file list
> > > > in the RPM spec. The only manual step is adding the changelog entry &
> > > > bumping release number.
> > >
> > > Quick note: this is essentially what debian does.
> >
> > Ugh. Can we please just agree that source-git (vs. dist-git) is almost
> > always a bad idea?
> >
>
> Can you expand on that? To me it is a much easier way to maintain
> packages, but I don't have tons of experience doing that and I'm
> perhaps not the "average package maintainer". Hearing other perspectives
> would be helpful.

Sorry, I should have expanded on that short statement.

I literally maintain hundreds of packages, mostly by myself (yes,
that's too many, but that's a problem that tooling can't fix).
I'd hazard to guess that 90% of these packages don't contain *any*
patches on top of an upstream release. So pointing the .spec file to
an upstream tarball is the *absolute easiest thing* possible, and I
don't want to have to deal with the upstream git repo contents for
these packages at all.
For another 9% of packages, I maintain a small set of local patches
(up to two patches or so), which I can "generate on the fly" for every
new upstream release (if necessary), and which is only a small amount
of work.
For the remaining 1% (about 2-3 of my packages), I maintain a local
git repository with branches for every release, where I maintain a
small downstream patch-set. This seems to correspond to a source-git
approach, and might be similar to what you're doing.

So, to summarize: I just don't want the absolute edge case to become
the general case. It would make things *massively* more complicated
for me, and I guess that applies to the "average packager" in fedora,
as well.

Fabio

> > > If you want to go this way, I hope we can avoid the need to generate
> > > a "pristine" tarball and patches. Instead, the contents of the repo should
> > > be directly used for a build. A tarball can be created, but this tarball
> > > would always be the tip of the tree containing both the sources and
> > > the packaging.
> > >
> > > Zbyszek
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