Re: translucent gnome top bar gone in F31?

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On Monday, September 9, 2019 8:51:48 AM MST Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 04:39:47AM -0700, John M. Harris Jr. wrote:
> 
> > > > 
> > > > This is precisely the issue with GNOME entirely. It assumes the user
> > > > shouldn't 
> > > > have a choice, that some designers know best.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yes, precisely *your* issue. I’d rather someone think for me as far as
> > > defaults go and not give me a quest to set everything up just right
> > > every time I install the DE.
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > Decisions such as this, inspired by the idea that *somebody* knows best,
> > and  it just works for everyone, are precisely why I won't be able to
> > deploy RHEL 8 until KDE is available through EPEL or another repo. Heck,
> > the only reason I can even run RHEL 8 on my test box is because I
> > manually compiled KDE for it. 
> > This is incredibly common in GNOME, where people just make a decision and
> > try  to enforce it on the users. Things everyone hates, like moving the
> > mouse into the top-left corner opening some weird menu, and the only way
> > to disable it being third party software. (Something I've had to provide
> > a fix by default for on my RHEL 7 deployments, where some of my users
> > prefer GNOME), and where users request that I install gnome-tweak-tool
> > for them so that they can make basic preference changes which just aren't
> > available otherwise.
> 
> 
>   John,
> 
>   you personal opinions are not providing anything valuable in this
>  thread.  This went offtopic too much, bordering on insults.
>   Please keep our mailling list productive and civilised.

On a topic where the decision will be based entirely on opinions, I fail to 
see how opinions are not relevant. Further, nothing in that email is what I 
would describe as "uncivilized". I'm not asking people to necessarily agree 
with me, everyone is welcome to their own opinions, I simply provided mine and 
that of the users I work with.

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