On Monday, September 9, 2019 4:32:45 AM MST Ernestas Kulik wrote: > On Mon, 2019-09-09 at 04:26 -0700, John M. Harris Jr. wrote: > > > On Monday, September 9, 2019 3:07:54 AM MST Felipe Borges wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 11:56 AM John M. Harris Jr. < > > > johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, September 8, 2019 9:59:03 PM MST Tomas Popela wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 5:06 PM Ernestas Kulik < > > > > > ekulik@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2019-09-06 at 14:26 +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski- > > > > > > Szmek wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I upgraded to F31 recently, and I now I noticed that the > > > > > > > gnome top > > > > > > > bar is always black. I miss the old translucent blue bar > > > > > > > that would > > > > > > > only go black if window was moved adjacent. I'm not sure > > > > > > > though > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > this changed... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/commit/9cfb51c106abd1f9 > > > > > > 6012 > > > > > > bf39 > > > > > > f3d329cf060035cf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And there is a MR (with improved heuristics) that tries to > > > > > bring it back > > > > > - > > > > > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/404. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not just make an option somewhere in settings so the user can > > > > simply > > > > decide for themselves? > > > > > > > > > https://ometer.com/preferences.html > > > > > > This is precisely the issue with GNOME entirely. It assumes the user > > shouldn't > > have a choice, that some designers know best. > > > Yes, precisely *your* issue. I’d rather someone think for me as far as > defaults go and not give me a quest to set everything up just right > every time I install the DE. > > -- > Ernestas Kulik > Associate Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems (Core > Services/ABRT) > Red Hat Czech, s.r.o. Decisions such as this, inspired by the idea that *somebody* knows best, and it just works for everyone, are precisely why I won't be able to deploy RHEL 8 until KDE is available through EPEL or another repo. Heck, the only reason I can even run RHEL 8 on my test box is because I manually compiled KDE for it. This is incredibly common in GNOME, where people just make a decision and try to enforce it on the users. Things everyone hates, like moving the mouse into the top-left corner opening some weird menu, and the only way to disable it being third party software. (Something I've had to provide a fix by default for on my RHEL 7 deployments, where some of my users prefer GNOME), and where users request that I install gnome-tweak-tool for them so that they can make basic preference changes which just aren't available otherwise. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
