On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 10:00:03 AM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > This is hyperbole, and turning up the volume isn't going to make > anyone go "oh, ok, now I see your point, it's hostile and we don't > want to do that, let's change it" as if literally everyone reading > this is some kind of moron. I disagree. The description is a response to the earlier suggestion, that because something is already insecure, to a certain degree, that it should just be left that way. > > Your position is shown to be weak if you have to use this distinctly > non-objective tactic designed to evoke an emotional response in the > reader. All you're doing is casually dismissing one side of a > balancing act and then claiming the result as proof the policy should > change. Guess what? Saying things does not make them true. You're welcome to your opinion, but that doesn't make it so. I'm not dismissing anything. > You should try to understand all of these arguments have happened > before, and if you really want a change to happen, you need a produce > a compelling new arguments. See my other responses to this thread. > Did the previous working group misunderstand something previously? It seem so. > Has new information come to light? Yes, more people have realized what was done by the GNOME spin. > Has the GUI firewall app made UI/Ux improvements that might sway the > working group to re-evaluate? Possibly, but that doesn't have anything to do with what needs to be done to provide our users with a more secure default. > By all means shout more. And be ignored. Or do the hard work and put > together a deliberate and compelling argument. I have been addressing concerns as I see them. If you have a concern I have not addressed, please feel free to ask. -- John M. Harris, Jr. <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Splentity https://splentity.com/ _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
