On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 8:11 AM <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:14 AM, John Harris <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Please consider the security aspect of this. This is a critical vulnerability. Please, don't make us look like the Linux Mint folks. If Workstation is to be a viable product, especially if it's going to be advertised prominently, as the primary download for Fedora, this needs to be fixed. > > > Can you point to any other major (serious) desktop Linux distro that ships with a restrictive firewall configuration? > > The main competitor of Fedora Workstation is Ubuntu. Ubuntu ships without a firewall enabled and nobody considers this a critical vulnerability. Now: why is that...? The other major non-Linux operating systems do. Both Microsoft Windows and Apple macOS ship with active firewalls by default. Those are the real competitors, and they have a good UX for firewall handling so that users can Do The Right Thing(TM). FirewallD is a perfectly good firewall system, but we need a good frontend with integration for it to work well for the Workstation use-case. -- 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx