Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

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On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 12:32:26 AM MST mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 5:59 AM, Christopher
> 
> <ctubbsii@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > The current status is that the Workstation WG never came up with a
> > solution in 5 years, and new people are finding this default
> > configuration and getting upset about the failure of Fedora
> > Workstation to meet basic security expectations.
> > 
> > Since Workstation WG has not come up with any better solution over the
> > course of 10 Fedora releases / 5 years, and the default insecure
> > status persists, I think it's reasonable to conclude that FESCo's
> > trust in the Workstation WG's ability to come up with a satisfactory
> > solution was misplaced. I would strongly urge the current FESCo
> > require Worksation to adopt the same secure default configuration as
> > Server, until such a time as Workstation WG comes up with a solution
> > for Workstation that can *honestly* clear the change proposal process.
> 
> To be clear, we have never had any plans to work on this.
> 
> If there is a separate team of firewall developers that would be
> interested in writing a new style of firewall, then I'm sure the WG
> would be happy to reopen discussion of the issue, including a
> discussion of requirements, etc. But I highly doubt anybody will be
> interested in this effort to reenable a stricter firewalld
> configuration. This doesn't seem like a serious effort to think about
> how a firewall could be useful, it just seems like an effort to break
> software.

Please consider the security aspect of this. This is a critical vulnerability. 
Please, don't make us look like the Linux Mint folks. If Workstation is to be 
a viable product, especially if it's going to be advertised prominently, as 
the primary download for Fedora, this needs to be fixed.

Just imagine if this were done on RHEL!

-- 
John M. Harris, Jr. <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Splentity
https://splentity.com/

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