On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 09:13 Colin Walters wrote: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2019, at 7:34 AM, Daniel Walsh wrote: > >> I agree. Entering a container and doing a yum update is an >> Anti-pattern. > > This is a complex discussion - I think we need both. Personally I > live inside a "pet" container using https://github.com/cgwalters/coretoolbox > and I definitely `yum update` inside there, though I do also periodically > destroy it and re-pull. > I also run yum to keep my local runtime updated and I even suggested a new buildah commit option to make this more efficient: https://github.com/containers/buildah/issues/1778 Though this is useful for devel or traditional workstation use-case. It seems like a fedora image should come with the package manager, but perhaps it should only be used as a build stage using an option similar to the --installroot option? Regards, -Tristan > Kubernetes though for sure is about non-pet containers. > >> Buildah and Multi-Stage builds do allow you to eliminate >> these tools, but that is more difficult to do. > > multi-stage is easy and obvious for the case of e.g. Golang and Rust single compiled binaries, and it's not too hard to do for other compiled languages (C/C++) as long as you have a notion of `BuildRequires` versus `Requires`. > For interpreted languages though, yeah, not as worthwhile unless you're pulling in a *lot* of build dependencies (doc tooling?) distinct from your runtime ones. > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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